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One of Hart’s many gifts as a leader in the
arts world was her willingness to listen and
learn, to accept and even endorse artists and
art forms that were previously unfamiliar
to her.
 Photo: Martha Cooper
Varick A. Chittenden
is professor emeritus
of English at the State
University of New
York in Canton and
executive director of
Traditional Arts in
Upstate New York
(TAUNY). Photo: Martha
Cooper
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My memories of Kitty Carlisle Hart go
back to my teenage years, when flickering
images on a black-and-white television set
first brought her—as a celebrity panelist on
the game show To Tell the Truth—into my
family’s living room in the North Country.
Her glamorous looks, aristocratic bearing,
quick wit, and gentle humor made a real
impression on me.
Many years passed before I had the opportunity
to meet Kitty Hart. Of course, as
a regular applicant to the New York State
Council on the Arts and an occasional
panelist for the Folk Arts Program, I knew
that Hart had been serving there for a long
time. But it was the summer of 1994, a few
months after we at TAUNY had moved into
our first public space, that Sara “Dee Dee”
Barclay, then a council member, organized
a tour of the Saint Lawrence Valley for
several council members and staff. Dee
Dee had asked for my help to find places
for them to visit and I saw an opportunity
that I couldn’t pass up. So, despite the fact
that our first gallery was tiny and had no
kitchen, I offered to have them visit us and
stay for lunch.
That was a memorable day for us. Hart, a
half dozen other council members including
Richard Schwartz, and several staff arrived
in a van after other stops in our area earlier
in the day. She spent considerable time in
our first-ever exhibit of local folk art, and
then we sat down to eat on borrowed tables
and chairs. The menu included homemade
venison stew, head cheese, johnnycake, and
cheese curds. Hart asked questions and
seemed genuinely interested in what we
were doing, but won the day by insisting that
the eight-year-old daughter of TAUNY’s
board president sit with her for lunch and
carrying on a lively conversation with her
throughout.
Later on that same trip, my wife Judy and
I were included in an elegant dinner party
for about thirty people at the Barclays’ home
near Pulaski. Before dinner, we gathered
in the large living room for the entertainment,
which I had happily arranged for the
occasion. Both Adirondack storyteller Bill
Smith and Tug Hill fiddler Alice Clemens
performed in a setting that reminded me
of an eighteenth-century drawing room.
I can still see Hart pulling up her chair to
within a few feet of Bill and Alice, with her
attention focused only on them throughout
their entire performances.
I assume by all accounts that Kitty Carlisle
Hart was a city person. She spent a lot of her
life on Broadway stages, in uptown galleries,
and in literary salons, surrounded by people
whose names appeared regularly in the arts
and society pages of major newspapers.
But when she was appointed by Governor
Nelson Rockefeller to the NYSCA board,
she found her true calling as an advocate for
the arts and artists of New York State—“all
the artists of the state,” as Richard Schwartz,
who would eventually succeed her as chair
of the council, told me recently.
I’m sad to note that Kitty Hart died on
April 17 in Manhattan; she was ninety-six.
Her New York Times obituary said that
“Working for the arts council, Miss Carlisle
was herself a ‘Johnny Appleseed for culture,’
especially in rural part of New York State.
‘Wherever we go, the arts flourish,’ she said.
‘It’s a cliché now that people say they want
to make a difference, but I’d like to think
that somehow I made a difference.’” Kitty
Hart served on the council for thirty-six
years and was chair for almost twenty. In her
1988 memoir she mentioned the creation of
the Folk Arts Program as one of the major
accomplishments of her tenure.
Besides the more conventional examples—
fiddle festivals, quilt shows, or
ethnic dance events—applications to the
council for folk arts programming have at
times tested what some might call “art” or
—folk art.” Al Berr, longtime deputy director,
recalls, “When the Michael Cousino Vietnam
diorama exhibit proposal [a TAUNY
application!] came to the NYSCA committee,
Mrs. Hart expressed real doubt about
it. When shown photos of the pieces and being told about their significance, she replied,
‘That’s folk art, I know it is!’ She may
not have known what it was intellectually,
but she had the sensibility for it and that
was enough for her.” And Robert Baron,
director of the program since its beginning,
remembers “an application with community-
based hip-hop, where she wanted to
hear an example in the council committee
meeting, and it was played for her, and she
approved in her ever-charming manner.”
One of Hart’s many gifts as a leader in the
arts world was her willingness to listen and
learn, to accept and even endorse artists and
art forms that were previously unfamiliar
to her.
I recall fondly the gala night at the Metropolitan
Museum of Art in 2000, when
TAUNY was among the honorees for
Governor’s Arts Awards. When I learned
that Kitty Hart and Martha Stewart were
chosen to present our award, I was especially
pleased. And when the two got on stage to
read the citation, Hart mentioned several
towns in our region where we present programs.
Stewart jokingly asked if she had
visited all those places, and the then–ninety-year-
old shot back, “You bet I have!” And
I think she had.
On the night after her death, the lights
all over Broadway were dimmed for a moment
to honor her work and her life. But
way off Broadway—in city neighborhoods
and small towns all over New York—we
remembered, too. We shall miss her. She
indeed made a difference.
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Varick Chittendens Upstate column was published in Voices Vol. 33, Fall Winter 2007. Voices is the membership magazine of the New York Folklore Society. To become a subscriber, join the New York Folklore Society now.
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